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Efficient determination of the structure of (molecular) liquids based on

diffraction experiments

(using Reverse Monte Carlo modeling)

László Pusztai

Institute for Solid State Physics and Optics, Wigner Research Centre for Physics,

Hungarian Academy of Sciences

pusztai.laszlo@wigner.mta.hu

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The

BEGINNINGS...

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Elemental liquids (1)

51 liquids altogether...

Some are ‘simple’, some

are not so simple...

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Elemental liquids (2): simple

32 simple elemental liquids (liquid ‘good’ metals, noble

liquids):

By and large, the only

difference is particle size.

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Molten salts (1)

A new feature here: 2 components, 3 partials.

Heavy use of isotopic substitution neutron diffraction data (Cl and

Ni isotopes – good, old

days...).

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Molten salts (2): intermediate range

A densely packed, uniform (BaCl

2

, RIGHT) vs. a more open, more uneven (ZnCl

2

, LEFT) structure. The

tendency towards covalency is obvious in molten ZnCl

2

.

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Liquid sulphur

???

!!!

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CONSTRAINTS

Since, in general, there are many-many-many possible structures that are consistent with

results of diffraction (and EXAFS) experiments...

...we MUST MEANINGFULLY

NARROW the (configuration)

space of solutions !!

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CONSTRAINTS

• Density

• Particle sizes (‘packing fraction’)

Geometrical constraints (possibly based on other experimental evidence):

number of neighbours; bond angles.

Diffraction data

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CONSTRAINTS

(available in the present software, RMC++/RMC_POT)

• ND, XRD, EXAFS data

• Coordination number (specific, average,

‘cumulative’)

• Angular distribution (‘bond angles’)

• ‘fixed neighbours’ (mostly for molecular systems,

but for covalent glasses, it may also be OK)

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Liquid sulphur (revisited)

YES!

One F(Q),

THREE different angular distributions!

!!!

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Liquid sulphur (2)

Diffraction data CANNOT tell if l-S is (a) atomic; (b) chain-

like; or (c) ring-like.

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The

PAST 15 YEARS...

...the rise of

MOLECULAR

LIQUIDS

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WHY (1)

are molecular liquids important?

WATER &Co. !!!!!!

+ „multisale customers”:

- near-critical systems

- polymers (and soft matter in general) - colloidal aggregates

- Etc...

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WHY(2)

molecular liquids?

Don’t we know everything ???

Well...

Just think of liquid CCl 4 ...

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THE MAIN ISSUE HERE

(molecules! possibly, multiple length scales!):

WHAT ARE THE PARTICLES TO CONSIDER

(and MOVE) ??

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HOW TO HANDLE MOLECULES?

Rigid: not good...

Must be flexible (a) FNC

(b) real intramolecular potentials

( RMC_POT)

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„Fixed Neighbours Constraints”, FNC FNC-s are essentially neighbour

lists: lists of atoms that have to be connected throughout the entire

calculations (within prescribed distance ranges).

(RMCProfile: a similar approach introduced.)

Simple concept – GREAT use!!

Evrard et al.,J. Phys.: Condens. Matter17, S1 (2005)

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FNC-s at work: XCl 4 liquids, a classic example (1)

HARD SPHERE-LIKE REFERENCE SYSTEMS !!

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A classic example (2): XCl 4 liquids

HSMC REFERENCE SYSTEMS; simple orientational

correlation functions (by R. Rey).

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These are (the last???) systems that may be understood very well

(‘fully???’) by

experiments and RMC

modeling.

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The

PRESENT...

...the rise of COMPLEX molecular liquids:

approach towards MD.

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A strongly coupled application of RMC and molecular dynamics (MD)

simulations for understanding the

structure of complex systems

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WHY MD/MC SIMULATION?

To access information that is not available otherwise (like via experiments).

A change of paradigm (for me…): since experimental evidence is (very...) limited for the most important

bit, the H-bond

It is MD that will provide ‘the final solution’ for

complex disordered systems ( BIOLOGY)

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How do we know that a(n MD/MC/AIMD) simulation is ‘good’?

COMPARE simulation results with EXPERIMENTal data.

WHAT results and HOW ... ????

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VALIDATION OF SIMULATION RESULTS

pRDF’s from MD

Total S(Q)

from diffraction

A structural modell via RMC

that is(??) consistent with BOTH.

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What if you do RMC only?

(CsCl solutions in water)

2 datasets, 10 prdf’s

=>

Too many possibilities

We MUST include extra information!!!

(Whose reliability can be checked simultaneously!)

Mile et al.,J. Phys. Chem B, 113, 10760-10769 (2009)

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MD + RMC

(15 molar% CsCl solution in water)

Mile et al.,J. Phys. Chem B, 113, 10760-10769 (2009)

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What have we learnt from the MD+RMC combination

concerning water&Co.??

• We have a clue which water potentials are

‘OK’ for pure ambient liquid water STRUCTURE.

• We now know that a major problem while

simulating aqueous solutions is the water

potential – (probably) need a new one!

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BEYOND WATER

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Pure alcohols: do we know everything?

-1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6

0.3 0.5 0.7 0.9 1.1 1.3 1.5 1.7 1.9 2.1 2.3 2.5 2.7 2.9 3.1 3.3 3.5 3.7 3.9

Series2 Series3 Series4 Series5 Series6 Series7 Series8 Series9 Series10 Series11

From methanol to decanol: increasing supramolecular organisation?

X-ray diffraction data; WHAT ABOUT NEUTRONS????

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Pure alcohols: micro- and mesoscopic structure of MeOH, EtOH, PropOH

MD??? How come...??

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Involving interatomic potentials

Even closer interplay with molecular dynamics simulations

RMC_POT

Gereben O, Pusztai L; Journal of Computational Chemistry; Volume 33, Issue 29, 5 November 2012, Pages: 2285–2291 (2012)

( CREDIT TO EPSR here –

AKS&Co. started to play with potentials AND

structural modelling.)

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The

FUTURE...

...understanding H- bonded liquids

( BIOLOGY).

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Involving interatomic potentials : :: : RMC_POT

Gereben O, Pusztai L; Journal of Computational Chemistry; Volume 33, Issue 29, 5 November 2012, Pages: 2285–2291 (2012)

GROMACS philosophy GROMACS-like file structure

Interatomic potentials of any complexity handling molecules of any complexity !

Complex molecules complicated application

(probably inevitable).

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Involving interatomic potentials : :: : RMC_POT

Description of molecules of any complexity; for instance, dihedrals may be:

a)Proper dihedral angle, b) improper dihedral for

rings, c) planar group and d) chiral centre.

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Involving interatomic potentials :: : : RMC_POT for dimethyl-trisulfide

-2 -1.5 -1 -0.5 0 0.5 1

0 5 10 15

Q (Å-1)

S(Q) .

experimental Fm_fq_NB

0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5

1 2 3 r (Å) 4 5 6

S -H g (r ) .

MD FNC_fq Fm_fq

Fm_fq_gr_NB

CH3 – S – S – S – CH3

Gereben O, Pusztai L; Journal of Computational Chemistry; Volume 33, Issue 29, 5 November 2012, Pages: 2285–2291 (2012)

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Alcohol-water mixtures: a widely misunderstood class of liquids?

Letters to Nature

Nature416, 829-832 (25 April 2002) | doi:10.1038/416829a; Received 26 October 2001; Accepted 4 March 2002

Molecular segregation observed in a concentrated alcohol–water solution S. Dixit1, J. Crain1, W. C. K. Poon1, J. L. Finney2 & A. K. Soper3

When a simple alcohol such as methanol or ethanol is mixed with water1, 2, the entropy of the system increases far less than expected for an ideal solution of

randomly mixed molecules3. This well-known effect has been attributed to hydrophobic headgroups creating ice-like or clathrate-like structures in the surrounding water4, although experimental support for this hypothesis is scarce5, 6,

7. In fact, an increasing amount of experimental and theoretical work suggests that the hydrophobic headgroups of alcohol molecules in aqueous solution cluster together2, 8, 9, 10. However, a consistent description of the details of this self- association is lacking11, 12, 13. Here we use neutron diffraction with isotope substitution to probe the molecular-scale structure of a concentrated alcohol–water

mixture (7:3 molar ratio). Our data indicate that most of the water molecules exist as small hydrogen-bonded strings and clusters in a 'fluid' of close-packed methyl

groups, with water clusters bridging neighbouring methanol hydroxyl groups through hydrogen bonding. This behaviour suggests that the anomalous thermodynamics of water–alcohol systems arises from incomplete mixing at the molecular level and from retention of remnants of the three-dimensional hydrogen-

bonded network structure of bulk water.

METHANOL

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Alcohol-water mixtures: a widely misunderstood class of liquids (2)?

PROPANOL

SAME CONCENTRATION,

VARYING H/D RATIO

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Connecting different length-scales

• Connecting length scales is not a simple matter – no general solution (every single case is unique)

• BUT: LOTS OF opportunities!

(e.g. self-organisation in alcohols in alcohol-water mixtures micelle formation complex aggregates in solution BIOLOGY (?) )

near-critical systems

- polymers (and soft matter in general) - colloidal aggregates

- Etc...

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THE BOTTOM LINE(s)...

• Approaching molecular dynamics (using potentials!) even closer (e.g., improved schemes for moving around large molecules).

• ‘Final’ solution: (some sort of) ‘super-MD’ (the H-bond is not well visible by difraction experiments as molecules grow

bigger)!

• RMC(_POT 2 ++++) would act ‘just’ as a most efficient refinement to ‘super-MD’ results...

• ...unless new experimental data may be involved (e.g., dream of

RLM/LP from Sweden: NMR + SANS ???) !

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